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Jeremy Kwok

Jeremy grew up in Sydney before moving to the United States for tertiary studies. Jeremy completed the BA, MA (History), and M.Div degrees before returning to Australia with his wife Debbie. He currently works for Christian Education Ministries, a company that owns and operates private schools.


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    Jeremy Crooks

    We should also consider, ‘How do we disagree and discuss controversy without being ungodly?’

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    I agree – there’s no “Protestant” without “Protest” :)

    When Luther posted the 95 Theses – it was not his intention to break from the church – rather to create a reference point for discussion.

    When Luther met with Zwingli on the significance of the Lord’s Supper – he was wrong but closer to the Scripture than his predecessors.

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    Controversy is one thing; mudslinging is another. Discussion should edify and overflow with God’s grace. He’s the only one who knows all the answers. So let’s put away “corrupt communication” and put on humility, gentleness and patience, “forbearing one another in love”. (Ephesians 4)

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    Brother Jeremy,

    Thanks for the post. One of the things I appreciate about this blog is that robust debate generally takes place in a respectful and civil way. That is why the recent debates that have followed the last two postings have really disheartened me. The name-calling, nastiness and intemperate language helps no one’s particular theological cause, nor the cause of Jesus Christ.

    I have little doubt that some postings are deliberately intended to ‘stir the pot’, or should I say “generate debate”, but even so I would hope that we can continue to express even strong opinions in an appropriate manner.

    And as to this – “How many of you have actually read something that John Calvin wrote (or Jacobus for that matter)?”…slightly arrogant, but your point is well made. (I’m up to page 246 of Calvin’s Institutes, that leaves me only 724 pages to go.)

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    Jason Harris

    @PJ, I appreciated your comment as you’re not the only one who has expressed discouragement at the tone of the discussions last week. I wrested with how to handle last week’s comments so perhaps I’ll open that up for discussion in tomorrow’s post so I can benefit from your perspective and that of others.

    @Jeremy, Forgive my denseness, but I’ve read this post twice and am still sorting through where you’re going with it… perhaps you can clarify the follow statement:

    “God preserved his Word while people were talking at it – not applying it.”

    Are you saying that God worked in spite of Scholasticism? Or perhaps through Scholasticism? In this context, are you saying that “talking at” Scripture worked for beneficial ends? I’m sure I’m just not clicking today, but any clarification would be appreciated.

    PS: Glad to hear you’ll be posting weekly now. Should be good.

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    Jeremy K made some good comments.

    I really appreciated his comment about talking at Scripture vs applying it. The Bible is not our end goal, becoming more like Jesus is. Sometimes, it seems like we replace God with the idol of the Bible.

    In regards to reading Calvin’s work before making a judgement on Calvinism: I take your point, but must add two of my own.

    1. Christianity was complete before Calvin came along.
    2. Calvinism has evolved to mean different things in the past 500 years. Would it not be better to use Biblical terms like election, predestination rather than a label?


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